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Baratacus
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Topic: booties... for your feet! Posted: 03 November 2009 at 9:34am |
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ok guys... I saw some posts in another topic on this matter, thought I'd start it's own thread. What booties do you wear, and what booties do you hate on? It's getting cold and I'm turning into a big wuss as I get older. I havn't owned a set of booties... for a very long time. I plan on buying some soon and would like some opinions. My typical sessions are at beach breaks, so they don't need to be rock climbers. I want something that insulates, and that Isn't going to baloon up with water.... since they don't have one-way permeable rubber (that I know of) I don't think that's going to be an easy order to fill. So what are the options?
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Dave
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Posted: 03 November 2009 at 10:33am |
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I have two pairs that I specifically bought for surfing places with lots of rocks in the water. One pair just goes up to the ankles. The is a split for just the big toe, kind of like mittens. It has two straps two secure them to your feet. I've haven't worn them surfing yet.
The other pair I have worn a lot are the Xcel 1.5mm Round Toe Reefwalker Boot. These are easy to put on, but do feel a bit loose and I think powerful wave could steal 'em. Water gets in them and they probably do very little to keep your feet warm. Well, maybe a little if the ground is really cold and you have a long walk.
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vegas mike
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Posted: 03 November 2009 at 2:54pm |
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not sure on any new models, it's been a long time since i've worn booties surfing.
however, i really like the split toe.
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Baratacus
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Posted: 04 November 2009 at 9:07am |
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I've had the split toe in the past and liked it more than the round toe. I'm seeing booties now that have an internal split for the toe but the outside of the bootie is rounded so you don't catch your leash. I don't remember ever catching my leash by accident, but I will grab it with my toes sometimes when paddeling to pull it up going through some salad. I guess I always thought of the split toe as being a balancing thing. But they plug it like its an insulation thing. Don't know how isolating your toes would keep them warmer.... ??? Wearing a tall boot with a snug top inside your suit would seem like the best way to keep them from getting flushed a lot. The straps on the feet suposedly help with keeping them from ballooning... Does anyone have experience with the soft sole booties? I don't. They're supposed to help you feel the board more, but to me it sounds kinda flimsy. I'd take them off at the water and put them on at the water but I would hate to tear them up runing around on my board.... I guess I don't tear my feet up... maybe I'm being paranoid.
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seawolf
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Posted: 04 November 2009 at 11:50am |
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I'm considering booties for the first time this year too. There were a few times last year when it felt like my feet where frozen solid (water around 55ish) - I'd pop up and just plop right back into the water. I've been reading that booties might cause you to stick to the deck - you just can't win lol. I imagine it will take some getting used to. I'm glad you started this thread; I wish I had something to add.
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vegas mike
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Posted: 04 November 2009 at 11:59am |
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yeah i thought that the split toe was for better balance. i mean that is what the big toe is for anyway.
when you say soft sole do you mean it's just neoprene and no rubber? like fin socks for bodyboarding?
i can't imagine that would work good for surfing.
and yeah seawolf that is what i hated most about booties. they grip too much.
when i used to ride a short board i'd move my feet around a lot. when i wore booties i had a hard time doing that.
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Baratacus
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Posted: 04 November 2009 at 4:30pm |
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I think the soft sole uses a tougher rubber than the neoprene sock, but not as hard as the standard booty sole. It also uses the tougher rubber for the top of the toe area and I think in the heel. As for traction, You can't really scoot or shuffle you need to pick your feet up and step or hop. You need to be a lot more precise on your foot placement when you hop up . My wax usually would go by the wayside durring booty season. Booties will hold the deck pretty well without wax. So I only would wax the areas that I would grab with my hands.
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twee
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Posted: 04 November 2009 at 11:11pm |
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I bought my first pair of booties last winter, a pair of XCEL Infiniti split-toe booties. They're pretty damned nice, keep my feet nice and toasty, but the more surfing I do in them, the more I'm realizing how thick the soles are. I have barely any feel for the board, and both times I've gone surfing with them on, I've felt like I was learning how to surf all over again.
I suppose I'll get used to it as times goes by, but it's still super awkward for me, and it's absolutely frustrating when you wipe out on a perfect wave because you couldn't adjust in time to make a decent bottom turn or cutback.
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superkook
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Posted: 06 November 2009 at 12:35pm |
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The O'Neil's that have the velcro-adjustable ankle diameter keep the water out really well.
The downside (for me) on those was they were soooooo grippy (the rubber wraps up in front) that I was catching my second toe of my forward leg on the pop-up and face-planting. Put some epoxy on the front of the toe as a fix, haven't tried them out yet.
The suggestion about leaving the wax off is a good idea too, thanks for that. I wax the board out of habit.
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goofypops
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Posted: 07 November 2009 at 9:35am |
Picked up a pair of Oneill Mutant Split-toe booties this past Thur and tried them out yesterday morning. I'm a size 10.5 and usually wear 11 for reg footwear. I ended up getting sz 10 for the Mutants. Fits great with no problems. Love the external forefoot support without an actual strap. Very sticky once on the board. Did wax my board but not as much as usual. It did take a couple of attempts before successfully popping up due to the "new feel" but it was great once it happened and knowing how comfortable I was in the water. 
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Posted: 08 November 2009 at 7:44pm |
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Usually buy whatever is on sale, don't have any complaints about any.
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